as a responce to the Bioshock achievements comments that you made, I kinda liked them because they were engrossed in the same atmosphere of the game. they had this old 50s flair in them being disturbing at the same time. and i saw them as achievements that residents of the underwater world could have obtained, while living in it.

all in all i wouldnt care less about achievements in games. i think that they target a much younger audience and be reason for a morning scholl bus conversation. mind you when I was younger i didnt really pay any attention to them either, and i have been playing games for hm... 12 years now.what was it? woldfenstein 3d i think.